Bluefog wrote:I disagree. I think it helps if I tell people I don't actually think that way and that my intention is not to offend and that the actual intent is a satirical examination for humorous purposes. Maybe you're not like minded and don't find it funny, and I'm almost sorry for that, but... I tried, and there's no pleasing everyone so I'll get over it.
Hold on! It almost sounds like you think I was saying that being offensive is a bad thing. Being offensive is fine. This is a game about murdering people and treating it as comedy; just signing up for these forums at all is already super offensive. Making fun of someone's religious figures is trivial by comparison.
All I'm saying is that if you're going to be offensive, don't be half-hearted about it. Be offensive in a way you can be proud of, and then be proud of it.
Bluefog wrote:It is intended for satire, which, last time I checked was supposed to be somewhat funny.
Nah. Satire is supposed to be offensive. Often it's made funny to lessen the blow, but not always.
If it's not offensive, then it's not satire, it's just parody.
aoffan23 wrote:In this case you're offending people who agree with the religious zeal of ISIS. So yes you're trying to offend those people.
Yeah, but there are precision strikes and then there's carpet bombing. It's easy to target one guy and hit everyone else in the area as collateral damage if you're either clumsy or just don't give a crap.
If I make fun of Obama with a bunch of black stereotypes, and then I say that it's okay because "I just hate Obama, not all black people," then all I've done is made myself sound stupid in addition to still being totally racist.
aoffan23 wrote:Also if someone thinks your portrayal of a group of Muslim extremists is supposed to be a portrayal of all Muslim people, then they're probably racist and that's their problem. Being apologetic about it just makes it look like that was your intention.
I disagree. I put a lot of thought into being offensive and a lot of care into making sure I'm offensive in exactly and only the ways I want to be, and I've developed a couple of rules of thumb.
- 6. If you punch somebody in the face, you're not the one who gets to decide whether or not it hurts. Even if you were "just kidding," even if you were just pretending to throw a punch and only connected accidentally, even if you "weren't hitting that hard," their nose is still broken whether you meant it or not.
7. If people think my erotic portrait of your mom is actually a painting of some vomit, it doesn't mean they're prejudiced against your mom, it means I'm bad at portraits. Failure to communicate is on me, not them.
8. If, on the other hand, your mom spent her entire life being compared to vomit, and can't go a single day without everyone she meets telling her she's vomit, and I try to paint a painting of her and it accidentally ends up looking like vomit... then that painting is going to hurt her just like a punch in the nose, even if I didn't "mean" it that way.
9. If I know my painting looks like vomit and I know about this history of abuse and I show the painting anyway, then I can't pretend I didn't know it was going to hurt. Apologizing doesn't make it look like it was my intention, but it does make it clear that I knew that would be the result, and just didn't care.
Colette wrote:Can we just rename the First Universal Church of Explosions to the First Universal Church of Kaboom? The second one has a better acronym.
I prefer to think of them as related sects, with FUCK as the violent extremist offshoot of FUnKY.
Zupponn wrote:Ha. And their holy book is the Qu'boom.
Flawless. I want to build a whole tradition around this now.
Five times a day, FUCKists must fire their weapons without warning in the direction of the Qiblam, which is oriented facing directly away from the holy Ka'aboom at the center of FUnKYspace. Only the faithful are permitted to see the Ka'aboom, and an explosion-shaped temple has been built around it to hide it from outsiders. It's rumored to be a planet-sized offshoot of the great Kanon Ball explosion that destroyed the universe at the end of BR 1,977, broken through into the current BrikVerse and frozen in stasis where it broke the local flow of time itself.