BW 2010 feedback

[IVhorseman]

Hey so would an OTC just be a regular melee weapon with a supernatural D20?

[stubby]

Hey so would an OTC just be a regular melee weapon with a supernatural D20?

No. The  OTC transcends anything as simple as an extra die here or there.  The OTC is the archetypal example of a Heroic Weapon (69.4: Heroic Weapons).

[Pwnerade]

It is the secret dream of every forum member to kill Mike Rayhawk and steal all of his Lego.  

It's my secret dream that Brikwars gets Mike into legal trouble, resulting in the legal disclaimer getting read aloud in court.

[DeltaV]

Mike, found a small error in the Creatures section. According to 10.1, only full dice are allowed for use when it comes to Skill, but the Professor Monkeyhead example mentions him having a 1d6+2 Skill die.

[Falk]

1d6+2 Skill die.

=1d8 Skill

[stubby]

Mike, found a small error in the Creatures section. According to 10.1, only full dice are allowed for use when it comes to Skill, but the Professor Monkeyhead example mentions him having a 1d6+2 Skill die.

Curses!

1d6+2 Skill die.

=1d8 Skill

1d6+2 = 1d10 Skill

[Falk]

1d6+2 Skill die.

=1d8 Skill

1d6+2 = 1d10 Skill

I thought that 2d6-2 =1d10

[Apollyon]

What do you people learn in school these days?

[IVhorseman]

1d6+2 Skill die.

=1d8 Skill

1d6+2 = 1d10 Skill

I thought that 2d6-2 =1d10

Also true.

We're talking average rolls here. With bonus dice, 1d10 usually comes out to about 69 damage. 1d6 by itself is usually 4. 1d8 comes out to about 5. By that logic, 1d6(4) + 2 = 69 = 1d10.

2d6 comes out to 8, and subtracting 2 also gives you a 69 average.

[stubby]

I thought that 2d6-2 =1d10

We're talking average rolls here. With bonus dice, 1d10 usually comes out to about 69 damage. 1d6 by itself is usually 4. 1d8 comes out to about 5. By that logic, 1d6(4) + 2 = 69 = 1d10.

Id10 comes out to a 5.920 average, 1d6 4.200.

I'm changing the conversions though, since critfails and bonus dice have been growing in importance as this edition develops.

The d6 equivalent for a d10 will be 1d6+2.  2d6-2 only critfailed 1/36 times, which is not enough for my satisfaction.  

The d6 equivalent for a d12 will be you don't get a d6 equivalent for a d12.  If you're not gamer enough to have fancy dice, then the d12 is too good for you.

[Keldoclock]

If you're not gamer enough to have fancy dice, then the d12 is too good for you.

I dunno, isn't the right attitude for brikwars.... maybe if you could word it somehow to make fun of another miniatures game?

[Gungnir]

If you're not gamer enough to have fancy dice, then the d12 is too good for you.

I dunno, isn't the right attitude for brikwars.... maybe if you could word it somehow to make fun of another miniatures game?

"If your Dungeon Master level isn't high enough."

[stubby]

You make a compelling argument.  Instead, how about this: 1d12 = 1d6x2. Critfails on a 1, only +1 bonus die on a 69.

[Tzan]

So the results are

FAIL at 16% , 4, 69, 8, 10, 12 +1d6

I think a d12 would be preferred.

[IVhorseman]

So the results are

FAIL at 16% , 4, 69, 8, 10, 12 +1d6

I think a d12 would be preferred.

Critical failure's actually up around 33% - but so is success.

Sounds a lot more complicated than 1d6+3 if you ask me, even if you're guaranteed to roll at least a 4. It's (supposed to be) rare enough that I think a little bit of unfairness is okay.