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Pulse-Light weapons and stats (HardLight revised)

Postby StalinsFavoriteKhat » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:27 pm

Pulse light is a energy that Shivatians artificaly create from light. It's special thing is that it doesn't give a sigle crap about armor. Most Shivarian infantry and tank and artillery use some form of pulse light, weather it's a tank cannon, an AT gun, or just a simple rifle bolt, it's some form of pulse light. For examples we're gonna use the 8,8cm AA/AT cannon, and a machinegun.(if you don't know whut I'm talking about, find the link in my signature, and yes, I did just advertise my army)

Pulse light trades a small amount of damage to achieve the powerful armor piercing abilities.  The 8,8cm is a size sixty-nine cannon. CP cost of 18, use of 9, and a range of 24 inches. It uses size 69 ammo. A normal size  shell costs 6CP, and does 6d10 damage, which is subjective to deflection and other things that make it hard to kill something. Shivarian Pulse Light Teknology Adaptions have fixed this. The CP cost to convert a weapon to pulse light is 1CP per size inch. The size 69 8,8cm AT/AA gun now costs 30CP and the use and range stay the same. The weapon no longer has to have fizical ammo, beacuse the power unit inside the 8,8 takes light from the space around it (theres no reduced visability), and then creates pulse cells, which a then used as the ammo. Before adaption, the 8,8 shot a size 69 shell, which did 6d10 damage. Since the 8,8 makes it's own ammo, and it's a size 69 weapon, then it makes size 69 pulse light shots. A normal size 69 would do 6d10, but the pulse light sacrafices a bit of damage in exchange for insane AP. A size 69 PL shot does 5d10-1 and ignores all armor stuff. The cannon still has to reload(or in small arms case, cool down), before shooting again.

Any pulse light small arms weapon(rifle, machine gun, pistol) over heat on a crit fail (roll of 1), and it tajes a roll of 69 to get the thing to cool down. Another way to cool down the small arm, is for the operating fig to take his next two actions and use them to cool the weapon. Damage is moved from d6 to d8-1, and the cost is 1CP per size inch.

The only change for a shotgun with pulselight is that its damage becomes sized8+2, and damage doesn't drop at range, but range is reduced by 1inch. A size 2 shotgun does 2d8+2 damage and has a range of 5 inches instead of 69.

Ill explain my version repeating/semiauto rifles and SMGs here too.
Repeating/Semiauto rifles are rifles that have a + 1 to damage(onto of any other mods)
EX: size-2, CP-6, use-4, range-10in, damage-2d6+1(PL has an additional +2 mod, and CP of 8 total)
SMGs are wierd, they are stated similarly to rifles, but they use only 1 die + 2  for damage. SMGs damage die is it's size, multiplied by 2, then with a +4 mod.  A size 2 SMG has 1d4+4-distance. They shot only in 1-2 arcs, and also have no auto penalty like a machine gun.
Assault rifles are the same as SMGs
EX: size-3, CP-9, use-6, range-14in, damage- 1d6+4-distance(PL has an additional +2 mod, and total CP of 12)
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( NOTE: if anywhere I said "hard light" or "HLS/HL", It is supposed to be PulseLight/PL, and I either haven't corrected it yet, or I don't care ).
Also, if you see the number '69', then auto-correct struck again. It's suppsosed to be the number SI X

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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby bann154 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:36 pm

Fookin newbs. Honestly we have armor piercing rules. Right here.
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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby Texhnophille » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:44 pm

bann154 wrote:Fookin newbs. Honestly we have armor piercing rules. Right here.

The guy just wants to add some fluff to his AP ammo, it's not the worst thing that he didn't know about alternate damage types.
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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby bann154 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:56 pm

Texhnophille wrote:
bann154 wrote:Fookin newbs. Honestly we have armor piercing rules. Right here.

The guy just wants to add some fluff to his AP ammo, it's not the worst thing that he didn't know about alternate damage types.

Most people read the rules before attempting to modify them. I mean that usually works best right? But hey what do i know? :commonsense:
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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby StalinsFavoriteKhat » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:23 pm

bann154 wrote:
Texhnophille wrote:
bann154 wrote:Fookin newbs. Honestly we have armor piercing rules. Right here.

The guy just wants to add some fluff to his AP ammo, it's not the worst thing that he didn't know about alternate damage types.

Most people read the rules before attempting to modify them. I mean that usually works best right? But hey what do i know? :commonsense:
I read that alternate damage stuff, and just kinda didn't really care to play with them, so I made my own thing. This is subject to comments and I add and change things as I see fit to these custom AP rules. When I get more time, I'll actually try to understand the AP rules, but last time I read them, they didn't make much sense, and seemed like alot of extra work, just to put a shell through some armor. :studgod:

Just read it again. It's really wordy. Lots of words, and not very to the point. If you have a simplified version, please share it.
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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby Texhnophille » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:18 am

StalinsFavoriteKhat wrote:
Just read it again. It's really wordy. Lots of words, and not very to the point. If you have a simplified version, please share it.


Here's how AP works: if your weapon has the armor piercing ammo, all your shots negate two layers of deflection, if there is any. For the larger creations, AP negates two of the creation's structure levels before applying damage. For example, if you shoot SL 3 tank with 3d10 armor, your AP attack will cut tank's SL to 1 with 1d10 armor respectively. So your weapon's damage now has to deal with 1d10 armor as opposed to 3d10 without AP. Also, for the component damage, after you're done with enemy's armor reduction, go one inch deep from the initially targeted creation's spot, then apply damage to that area.
Also, the Overskill for AP is essentially a pro railgun shot from Q3.
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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby stubby » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:39 am

bann154 wrote:Most people read the rules before attempting to modify them. I mean that usually works best right? But hey what do i know? :commonsense:

Yeah, just like most people read the EULAs and manuals before trying new apps. Why waste time reading rules when you could already be playing
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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby StalinsFavoriteKhat » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:10 pm

stubby wrote:
bann154 wrote:Most people read the rules before attempting to modify them. I mean that usually works best right? But hey what do i know? :commonsense:

Yeah, just like most people read the EULAs and manuals before trying new apps. Why waste time reading rules when you could already be playing
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Lol, thanks Stubby!
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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby Zupponn » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:04 pm

I still don't think that I've read the rules front to back yet.
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Re: Hard light weapons and stats(maybe,hopefully)

Postby StalinsFavoriteKhat » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:12 pm

Zupponn wrote:I still don't think that I've read the rules front to back yet.

Believe it or not, I have read the rules front to back. I thought they were funny and kewl, and wanted to get others to read them but no one but me really cared. As it was awhile ago I've forgot a bunch of stuff, but it was fun to read.
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Re: Pulse-Light weapons and stats (HardLight revised)

Postby StalinsFavoriteKhat » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:53 pm

I have redone my custom weapons rules, hopefully these are easier to understand and read. : D
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Re: Pulse-Light weapons and stats (HardLight revised)

Postby AZKAMAT » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 am

It feels like a lot of fiddly bits like the ones I used to fuck around with in my own first homebrew back in the day. My advice is to look where you can replace +1 or -1 with raised or lowered dice sizes instead. Makes for faster play. I.e. 1D8-1 could be replaced by 1D6. Easier to manage that kind of thing in my experience.

Also, beware of rules that apply permanent statuses to generic weapons. It can be hard to keep track that way...
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Re: Pulse-Light weapons and stats (HardLight revised)

Postby StalinsFavoriteKhat » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:22 am

Yeah. Part of the reason for fiddily bits is because when I was younger I liked to play older boardges like The Thin Red Line, and Flight Leader, which both have a number of fiddly rule sets and conditions and the like. Refinement of these rules is still going to.
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