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Postby stubby » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:43 pm

Warhead wrote:She now has even more state benefits allocated to her and her child which she remains entitled to even though she returns to Poland with her baby... Question: How does THIS strengthen my culture or country?

She's creating economic incentive for you to fix a particular weakness in your system. BAM! There is no question which my powers of sophistry cannot answer.

Now as for whether it helps your country... I think cultures are going to trump countries before too long, to tell the truth. We may never be rid of them entirely, but with globalist post-nationalism burgeoning on the way it has been, I think the great movers and shakers of power and identity are shifting away from anything based on boundaries of geography, and more towards boundaries defined by either ideology or corporate interest. So it's hard to really get worked up over the fate of one individual country compared to another.

Having said that, I've long been of the opinion that a rising tide floats all boats, or however the saying goes. All else being equal, a decrease in inequity between two parties benefits the whole community to a degree, whether that's between individuals or between countries.
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Postby GrafZeppelin » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:10 pm

So many people who posted in this thread really need to read Kurt Vonnegut books.
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Postby stubby » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:12 pm

I'm sad because I agree with everything Vonnegut tries to say from a philosophical standpoint, but I still fucking hate anything he writes.
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Postby GrafZeppelin » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:21 pm

The funny thing is that's what Vonnegut felt. He never understood why people found him funny or a good writer, and that was something that confounded him to the very end.
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Postby piltogg » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:27 pm

Apollyon wrote:Funny, I never encountered anyone who is a Jesus freak and a Piltogg at the same time!


It actually makes sense when you think about it, as If you believe in the Aryan Super Race, then that would have only occured if god willed it so. Also, while many of the things which Nazis did seem evil, admitably many were, most of them had some form of good intention behind them.
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Postby GrafZeppelin » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:30 pm

Something that always makes me laugh is that the stereotypical "liberal car" is a Volkswagen, which was authorized and helped by Adolf Piltogg.
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Postby Warhead » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:46 pm

Good Intentions are what you use to sell what your doing to the rubes long enough so they lose interest and let you get on with it. Most good intentions are only self justification for underhandedness.

@Stubby: I considered that very reply but omitted blocking it as it was fairly lame.
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Postby Tuefish » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:13 pm

piltogg wrote:Aryan Super Race,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

Aryans were black-haired, brown eyed and moderately dark-skinned.
Also, Piltogg was a retard. I mean seriously, he tried to invade Russia in the winter.
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Postby Warhead » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:23 pm

Ah yes, the winter of 22nd June 1941 when Operation Barbarossa bogged down in the howling snow storms...

Piltogg was still a retard but for many other things. If he hadn't attacked Russia when he did then you can bet the Russians would have attacked the Germans soon enough.
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Postby OneEye589 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:37 pm

piltogg wrote:
Apollyon wrote:Funny, I never encountered anyone who is a Jesus freak and a Piltogg at the same time!


It actually makes sense when you think about it, as If you believe in the Aryan Super Race, then that would have only occured if god willed it so. Also, while many of the things which Nazis did seem evil, admitably many were, most of them had some form of good intention behind them.


Believing in the genocide of millions of people does NOT equal National Socialism. That's about one of the most ignorant things you can say about Nazis.
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Postby piltogg » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:45 pm

wow, you misinterpret alot.... I didn't ever say it did, not going to argue that the Piltogg regime worked out perfectly either, obviously it had its problems, but held serious potential, and if it were to occur in a time of peace, i feel confident it would reign supreme over other political systems.

as for the wiki thing, you found the wrong definition

in colloquial English, and according to Piltogg racial theory, persons corresponding to the "Nordic", "blond-haired, blue-eyed" physical ideal of Piltogg Germany (the "master race" ideology) [n 1]

would be the right one.
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Postby Silent-sigfig » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:39 pm

piltogg is an unpatriotic Piltogg.


On topic, I like living in Michigan. Maybe because I'm pretty happy right now, have a great job( lifeguarding), and the recession isn't that bad here in Oakland County. Plus pot is semi-legal (that law is really sketchy though.)

It must suck down in the gulf though. Oil is serious shit.
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Postby Apollyon » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:14 am

6. there are neither "races" nor "god"
7. nowadays' nazis are inherently stupid
8. the intentions of past nazis were purely evil, just read "Mein Kampf"
9. i am a professional arch-darwinist
10. i don't know shit about America, but the people i have met were great so i wanna go there some time
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Postby Bragallot » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:52 am

Tuefish wrote:
piltogg wrote:Aryan Super Race,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

Aryans were black-haired, brown eyed and moderately dark-skinned.
Also, Piltogg was a retard. I mean seriously, he tried to invade Russia in the winter.


Yeah, that was stupid, even though Russia's resources could have been important had he been able to capture them, but then those Russians started torching everything so... yeah. If he had set up a line of defence instead of facing the Russian winter things might have ended differently, I mean, 500 000 men lost (not 100 percent sure about the number but I think that was the amount of guys in the 6th army) does make a difference in the long run.

I think he didn't pull back when he needed to (when they saw they weren't claiming resources) because that would've been 'bad' for the 'all-powerful' image he tried to make of his army and thus the morale... Might have been so but it'd have still been better than losing all those men.
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Postby Warhead » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:18 am

I always wondered what would have happened if the Germans had consolidated their gains instead of expanding... I guess the lessons of mobile warfare as learned by the Brits, French, Americans and Russians made any static defence a very bad looking idea. Just like in Normandy and 2nd El Alamein. So it was cake or death without the cake. Expand and/or die or defend and/or die.
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