"Some parents are worse, so this guy is in his right" is all I get from that.
Yeah some muslims murder their daughters because they hook up with an 'unworthy european' too. This kind of reasoning is flawed, that there's always worse people doesn't give anyone the right to do something wrong 'as long as it's not as bad as them'. Logical, but it's amazing how often people still fall into this trap.
OneEye589 wrote:You're trying to say my experiences and other people's experiences don't compare to this when you really have no grounds to stand on.
I do. You're saying it's the same, while it's not. You're saying you'd prefer it, well that's easy to say when you're on the outside looking in, if everyone was honest with themselves I would be sure they could all admit (to themselves) no one wants to be this girl right now.
Grinding my argument down to 1 line while you've ignored 9/10 of my last serious post is also way to go man, way to go.
Some of my friends had parents who did what sounds to be the same as yours. Some turned out going to the hospital for drug overdoses, dropping out of school, becoming pr0n stars, and beating their girlfriends.
The right general approach doesn't guarantee success. You can still fail at the proper execution. The fact you're using the word 'some' alone illustrates this perfectly.
However, I had discipline which I see as worse than shown in the video and I was in the top ten of my class, graduating from college, and have a job.
Well this fits into what I just said and society in general. The way society wants us to be is reflected in education as well. You ever remember George Carlin's quote, 'they do not want intelligent, critical citizens, they want obedient workers
!' There's way more to developing your personality than being 'succesful' in life, in fact many of the people who are most successful at school are social wrecks. My own sister was
the top of her class, she was
a difficult teenager, and my parents never went through extreme measures to 'punish' her.
Obviously, a majority of people think this is okay and may have had similar/worse punishments when they were kids, judging from the YouTube video.
The majority of people are also dumb as fuck. It used to be okay to send your kids off to work in the mines, too. The majority-argument is really the weakest you could have brought up. If we could bring everything down to majority, arguing would be easy. Unfortunately majority doesn't mean shit.
aoffan23 wrote: Bragallot wrote:
IVhorseman wrote:What ever happened to the good old days of just beating the hell out of your kids?
I think it's called civilization.
If your family's style of parenting breeds people that say shit like this, then you've just made a big point against it.
When the guy above me asks himself 'what ever happened to the good old days of just beating the hell out of your kids?' I could rest my case here
Again, discipline by fear of violence is very much like the discipline taught to slaves and not constructive at all
, if not identical. All you've been saying is 'hurr, she won't do that again!' By taking it out on someone and frustrating a person like that you only breed more frustration, and frustration doesn't make a very good guide in life.
The rest of your post is off-topic, we're talking about the issue of the dad here, not the fact you receive(d?) spankings, 'cos that's not what this is about and I'm not 'attacking' an entire parent community, just this retarded redneck.
This way, he shows that she shouldn't publicly disrespect and humiliate the people that give you everything, on top of that.
By giving the right example and doing exactly the same thing?
Right. I've told you before, if you think your duty as a parent doesn't go further than and your authority is received by 'giving your children everything', then you've got it wrong.
Try this: next time you want to hook up a girl, you want her to love, respect and get to know you, right? I'm anticipating the 'no I'd just want to put my dick in there' jokes so we don't have to waste time on those. Try just giving her stuff she wants, but do not talk to her more than is required. After you've given her a boatload of crap, go to her and say 'on your knees bitch, or I will slap the hell out of you! I gave you that stuff, so you're mine now!' See if she comes to respect and understand you and have respect for your situation, or think of you as a person she can relate to, trust things with, and get counsel from, which is the core of what people need in relationships, not a 'you give me stuff so I have to obey you relation'.
I think there's a fair chance she won't have sympathy for your viewpoint.