GENERIC themes you want to see!

Creations, construction techniques, and news from the world of plastic toys

Moderators: Dr. X, ikensall, fredde

GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby Scribonius » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:47 pm

Okay, we've spent some time talking (complaining) about the lack of generic themes. Maybe we should be creative? What kinds of themes do we WANT to see?

For me, my top five would be:

1: Fantasy Castle. Loved the trolls, skeletons, and dwarves from the last line. Let's add to that! Kobolds, Lizardmen, Elves, or maybe even a Fantasy merfolk kingdom? Hey, we got Cyclopes! Hephaestus' Forge!

2: Generic non-fantasy castle. Give us more Factions! Dark Forest rocked, and I'd love to see the return of the Wolfpack! A series of "medieval life" sets for more townsfolk would be nice too. Generic shopfront, a tavern, a barracks, and a humble pig farmer!

3: Pirates. The last sets weren't BAD, but they lacked a theme other than generic pirates. Why not build something up around the battles between the British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Dutch navies?

4: Historical Samurai? Been a while since we got these, as I mentioned in the 'lack of themes' topic. We want warrior monks! Well, I do, at least.

5: The Ancient World. The Roman Empire, Egypt, Greece, Persia, Pontus, Carthage, and barbarian tribes from every walk of life! We could have a Roman Wayfort, various generic huts or structures themed for the different forces, and 'armybuilder' boxes for each faction! Boxes of three or four minifigs wouldn't be too bad. Heck, each Ancient Culture could have three or four different armybuilder boxes! Roman Legionnaires, Roman Onager, Roman Light Cavalry. Egyptian War Chariots! Greek Hoplites! Even special single-minifig packs for commanders and historical figures! ... although that last one could just be a  minifig series expansion by itself... Oh, and if we get really bored, do a series of Charioteer sets based around the Byzantine Chariot Races! Four factions, a couple of Charioteers for each, fans, sections of Stadium, Hippodrome statues. Could even make a racing game out of it!
User avatar
Scribonius
Cannon Fodder
 
Posts: 424
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:29 pm
Location: Wandering through Mirial's Rock...

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby TheAtomikpunk » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:55 pm

Something set around the Spanish Inquisition would be cool.
My Stuff
"Remember Vegetables, Stay in Drugs, Don't do kids, and eat your school."

Wise man once said, " Tl;dr the entire rulebook is fudge."
User avatar
TheAtomikpunk
wait, I don't get it
 
Posts: 170
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:00 pm
Location: Somewhere between fallout 3, skyrim, and brikwars...

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby Zahru II » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:44 am

Paradisa but with a bigger emphasis on [aesthetic]

So more of this basically:

Image

(and this to some extent):

Image

but with louder colors and some semi-speedchamps grade not-testarossas and countaches. Basically just devote one half-year of city to vaporware. Heck, they can even put in the obligatory obnoxious helicopter set as long as it looks vaguely like the one from Magnum PI. Make the macaw from assembly square more widespread. Tool up a new flamingo piece. Put Chase McCain in a hawaii shirt. Sky's the limit.
Image
My stuff: Medivo / Armylists / Battles / SPACE
User avatar
Zahru II
bog standard
bog standard
 
Posts: 4449
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:22 am

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby Duerer » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:06 am

Why hasn't there been a proper caveman theme yet? You know, hunting mammoths and sabertooth tigers, bashing each other with rocks and so forth.
User avatar
Duerer
Forum Champion 2016-2017
Forum Champion 2016-2017
 
Posts: 2743
Joined: Sat May 03, 2014 11:22 am
Location: Germany, NRW (aka Eye of Terror)

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby TheCraigfulOne » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:13 am

:<3: everything in this thread.

I might add:

Generic Space: Just two groups of spacemen with guns, maybe a rehash of Blacktron and a new group (BrickTron?), lasers, spaceships, bases, outlandish vehicles. Keep it simple though, no aliens, no goofy play functions, no ugly POOPs, basically just a return to the 90s.

Also:

Part packs: Lego has done this before with baseplates and currently the Nexo Shields, but we need just bags of cool parts to use, I.e.

Chainsaw Bag (heard this somewhere before): Nine chainsaws of various colors, including transparent ones.

Fire Bag: a dozen different fire pieces, in three colors!

Could work both for AFOLs (OH SHIT OTCs!) and kids (mommy buy me these cool chainsaws) alike.
User avatar
TheCraigfulOne
there are no brakes on the ban train
 
Posts: 1278
Joined: Sun May 15, 2016 1:46 pm
Location: Rebelling in Dreamland

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby dilanski » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:43 am

Is this a general thing that people in the wider lego community are agreeing on. A return to more classic themes over the stylised playthemes we currently have?

Anyway, I know it is not quite generic, but a return to EXO-FORCE (or a general mecha theme) would get me interested in playthemes again. Awesome mechs have display value in my mind. Of all the kits I have had, the EXO-FORCE kits are the only ones I wish I had of kept together. Having a return to the theme with modern parts and building techniques would be awesome. Even if it would be the perfect reason for me to moan about pricing.

Grand Titan cost me a tenner. A FRICKING TENNER. fuck inflation.
Almond Status: ACTIVATED
User avatar
dilanski
Now with added tractor fetish
Now with added tractor fetish
 
Posts: 1899
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:41 am
Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain & FUCK THE DUP

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby stubby » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:56 am

Scribonius wrote:5: The Ancient World. The Roman Empire, Egypt, Greece, Persia, Pontus, Carthage, and barbarian tribes from every walk of life! We could have a Roman Wayfort, various generic huts or structures themed for the different forces, and 'armybuilder' boxes for each faction! Boxes of three or four minifigs wouldn't be too bad. Heck, each Ancient Culture could have three or four different armybuilder boxes! Roman Legionnaires, Roman Onager, Roman Light Cavalry. Egyptian War Chariots! Greek Hoplites! Even special single-minifig packs for commanders and historical figures! ... although that last one could just be a  minifig series expansion by itself... Oh, and if we get really bored, do a series of Charioteer sets based around the Byzantine Chariot Races! Four factions, a couple of Charioteers for each, fans, sections of Stadium, Hippodrome statues. Could even make a racing game out of it!

Duerer wrote:Why hasn't there been a proper caveman theme yet? You know, hunting mammoths and sabertooth tigers, bashing each other with rocks and so forth.

I pitched all of these ideas (from the generic huts to the army-builder boxes to the chariots etc) back in 2004. Through the magic of Lego design evolution all of those ideas got mashed up with this other blind-box thing we were doing and got turned into the Minifigures line. The Minifigures caveman and the ancient soldiers were all straight out of my 2004 pitches.
Natalya wrote:Wtf is going on in this thread?
User avatar
stubby
tl;dr: the rule of fudge is the entire rulebook
 
Posts: 5070
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:31 pm

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby stubby » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:03 am

dilanski wrote:Is this a general thing that people in the wider lego community are agreeing on. A return to more classic themes over the stylised playthemes we currently have?

Anyway, I know it is not quite generic, but a return to EXO-FORCE (or a general mecha theme) would get me interested in playthemes again. Awesome mechs have display value in my mind. Of all the kits I have had, the EXO-FORCE kits are the only ones I wish I had of kept together. Having a return to the theme with modern parts and building techniques would be awesome. Even if it would be the perfect reason for me to moan about pricing.

Grand Titan cost me a tenner. A FRICKING TENNER. fuck inflation.

Good news for you then. I don't know how many people have figured out that Ninjago is EXO-FORCE II, but check out 70615 Great-Great-Grand-Titan.

Image
Natalya wrote:Wtf is going on in this thread?
User avatar
stubby
tl;dr: the rule of fudge is the entire rulebook
 
Posts: 5070
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:31 pm

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby dilanski » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:55 am

stubby wrote:I don't know how many people have figured out that Ninjago is EXO-FORCE II


The number of Mecha and vehicles had always made me question Ninjago's Ninja credentials, especially with the spinner and other gimmicks. Not sure I can call it EXO II, it's more its own beast.
Almond Status: ACTIVATED
User avatar
dilanski
Now with added tractor fetish
Now with added tractor fetish
 
Posts: 1899
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:41 am
Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain & FUCK THE DUP

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby ikensall » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:05 am

Not sure how generic it is but I feel like a mash up of city and sci-fi would be interesting. In a way The Lego Movie had elements of the cyberpunk police/ near-future urban dystopia secret agent genre. Perhaps the space police sets were an attempt to carve out a child-friendly lego zone on the Blade-Runner / Ghost in The Shell scene.

I don't buy much lego nowadays, but if I was a small child the main thing that would limit my fun with recent lego sets is the lack of properly scary bad guys. For my taste the space police theme needed more evil robots with swords for legs and fewer "villains" that looked like they were from the mos eisley cantina band. Maybe themes are limited by TLG's play-well "nobody gets shanked in Lego City" vibe, but to have interesting heroes in a theme you need bad guys worth fighting.

Like Vladtron, without him and his cronies the rainbow knights would have sucked.
User avatar
ikensall
Princess Cauliflower
 
Posts: 939
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:09 am
Location: England

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby Zahru II » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:33 am

Is this a general thing that people in the wider lego community are agreeing on. A return to more classic themes over the stylised playthemes we currently have?


I'd argue that probably not, but there's a vocal segment to it, most of it seems like "this is what I grew up with hence the greatest."

I don't think a dedicated mecha theme is "warranted" anymore - EF was a test to see if mecha are "in" with the kids, and considering they are, most action themes have at least one now. Heck, they even have a "mecha guy" with Mark Stafford, and Junya Suzuki is also a promising fresh talent (King's Mech).

no ugly POOPs, basically just a return to the 90s


That's a funny juxtaposition considering it's the decade that spawned BURPs, LURPs, and these beauties (coming from someone who grew up then and cherishes many things from the timeframe regardless).
Image
My stuff: Medivo / Armylists / Battles / SPACE
User avatar
Zahru II
bog standard
bog standard
 
Posts: 4449
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:22 am

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby dilanski » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:37 pm

Zahru II wrote:
Is this a general thing that people in the wider lego community are agreeing on. A return to more classic themes over the stylised playthemes we currently have?


I'd argue that probably not, but there's a vocal segment to it, most of it seems like "this is what I grew up with hence the greatest."


I think it might be a slight reaction to a few years without any bread and butter Lego themes. No castle, space or pirate theme, just these funky crossovers. Now as I said in the other thread, Lego isn't marketing Ninjago or Nexo Knights at me, they have the ideas, creator and architecture lines for that. But I'd still love to see these generic themes to make some reappearance. Especially as I've gone off the licensed set premium.
Almond Status: ACTIVATED
User avatar
dilanski
Now with added tractor fetish
Now with added tractor fetish
 
Posts: 1899
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:41 am
Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain & FUCK THE DUP

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby Captain-Camper » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:48 pm

Sengoku Jidai please! Ninjago is cool and it was even cooler when it came out 6 years ago when we hadn't seen Samurai stuff in almost a decade but now I really feel like it's ran its course! I wouldn't mind seeing Samurai stuff with more of a character emphasis but a generic Samurai theme would be so nice
"Tallyho lads, snuggle the houses and burn the women! Leave not a single potted plant alive! Full speed ahead and damn the cheesemongers"
User avatar
Captain-Camper
seriously?
 
Posts: 761
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:17 am
Location: Here and There Along the Echo

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby stubby » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:09 pm

dilanski wrote:I think it might be a slight reaction to a few years without any bread and butter Lego themes. No castle, space or pirate theme, just these funky crossovers.

We've still got City. But apart from that I don't know if there's a market for bread and butter themes. Would kids in 2017 have any appetite for generic Castle and Space without any story attached? I don't think the market operates the way it used to.
Natalya wrote:Wtf is going on in this thread?
User avatar
stubby
tl;dr: the rule of fudge is the entire rulebook
 
Posts: 5070
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:31 pm

Re: GENERIC themes you want to see!

Postby Captain-Camper » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:13 pm

Yes because lego is ultimately about creating your own story:
"Tallyho lads, snuggle the houses and burn the women! Leave not a single potted plant alive! Full speed ahead and damn the cheesemongers"
User avatar
Captain-Camper
seriously?
 
Posts: 761
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:17 am
Location: Here and There Along the Echo

Next

Return to Bricks

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests