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samurai VS. knights

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:21 pm
by eclipse
What is the best type of armor samurai or knights?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:32 pm
by Blitzen
If I were to use a human as armour, it would greatly depend on the human in question. For example, is this human alive? If so, are his interests in my interests, or is he against my way of thinking? Does he wear armour himself? Does he come in a bulletproof variety?

It is difficult to chose which type of guys I would like to wear as armour, but I guess it doesn't matter, since this is all hypothetical anyway.

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:34 pm
by eclipse
So is that to say you have nothing to do or say?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:42 pm
by blackwing77
Samurais have the latest in anti-ninja technology, not that that's saying much. Knights don't stand a chance though.

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:03 pm
by Atomsk
I like the European-style armor, because you can turn it backwards and it looks like a Kevlar vest.  If you turn the Samuri armor around... you still have Samuri armor.

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:09 pm
by Tiny Tank Rannon
blackwing77 wrote:Samurais have the latest in anti-ninja technology, not that that's saying much. Knights don't stand a chance though.


Ninjas also have the latest in Anti-Samurai tech, so that point is moot.

also knights had horsies, lances, awesome helmets, awesome swords, etc...

Samurais don't stand a chance.

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:21 pm
by IVhorseman
tactical efficiency, irl looks, or lego looks?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:15 pm
by piltogg
well from a historical standpoint...
knights- realy good protection but unless ur on horseback you move realy slow

samuri- medium protection capable of moveing w/o mutch hinderance

so realy it depends if I am against a knight or a samuri
Oh- yah the aisans had gunpowder thus would own the slow moveing knights in an ambush

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:27 pm
by Tiny Tank Rannon
piltogg wrote: so realy it depends if I am against a knight or a samuri
Oh- yah the aisans had gunpowder thus would own the slow moveing knights in an ambush


this is about Knights vs. samurai, not asians verses europeans.

Knights pwn, face it even the lego ones look way cooler, all shall fear the black knight.

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:19 pm
by HeartOfDarkness
The Samurai armor looks cool, but in bulk amounts the Knight armor is more practical. It's hard to say, really.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:54 am
by Rody
european knight armour protects well, but it took months to make and had to fit quite well for you to be able to move in it.
the more simple chainmaille the europeans also used also took some time to make, but they had the advantage of nearly always forming a tight fit, and not restricting your movements as much.

I do not know anything about samurai armour, but I guess it is more mobile than their european knight counterpart.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:07 am
by eclipse
I want to get a ton of armor for a armor squad.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:58 am
by Atomsk
Tiny Tank Rannon wrote:
piltogg wrote: so realy it depends if I am against a knight or a samuri
Oh- yah the aisans had gunpowder thus would own the slow moveing knights in an ambush


this is about Knights vs. samurai, not asians verses europeans.


I think the only way to settle this dispute is a full-scale battle.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:52 am
by IVhorseman
ahahaha. historical inaccuracies are inaccurate.

+a knight's armor rarely consisted of full plate metal, as storybooks would like you to believe. while it was common, your average knight still wore chain mail or something similar that could move and breathe easily, and perhaps a breastplate on top.

+Samurais actually wore fairly little armor. most of the "samurai armor" suits you see on display were only ceremonial.

+The arquebus (asian gun) WAS widely used by samurai, however it was so inaccurate and inconsistent that an english longbow was several times deadlier and more cost-efficient.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:01 pm
by Rayhawk
I've always thought the knights armor made minifigs look kind of fat.  The samurai armor makes them look awesome.  And it still looks good in sci-fi settings, where the knight armor doesn't hold up as well.  Therefore I vote for the samurai.

Which is funny, because as I look back over all the BrikWars paintings, I've painted the knight armor dozens of times and the samurai armor not even once.  Force of habit, I guess.

IVhorseman wrote:+The arquebus (asian gun) WAS widely used by samurai, however it was so inaccurate and inconsistent that an english longbow was several times deadlier and more cost-efficient.

I was under the impression that arquebi were mainly used by conscripted peasant soldiers.  Japanese longbows were also deadlier and more cost-efficient from an equipment standpoint, but the training required to use one well required a much greater commitment of resources.

And although we don't normally think too much about morale advantages on this forum, gunfire is much louder and scarier than archery, and the psychological effects of that could hardly be overstated in a medieval environment.