Paco the Duck Ninja wrote:And it was goblins that fought at the Battle of Five Armies, not orcs.
Ross_Varn wrote:Either I'm confusing the Simarillion and The Hobbit again, or after Gandalf and the party split up, he actually met up with several other of this wizard buddies and went to confront the darkness at the core of Mirkwood, which was actually guess who? Yeah. The Dark Lord was just chilling there. I suspect we'll see a /little/ bit of that.
The Hobbit wrote:"I don't understand," said Thorin, and Bilbo felt he would have liked to say the same. The explanation did not seem to explain. "Your grandfather," said the wizard slowly and grimly, "gave the map to his son for safety before he went to the mines of Moria... how your father got there I don't know, but I found him a prisoner in the dungeons of the Necromancer." "Whatever were you doing there?" asked Thorin with a shudder, and all the dwarves shivered. "Never you mind. I was finding things out, as usual; and a nasty dangerous business it was. Even I, Gandalf only just escaped. I tried to save your father, but it was too late. He was witless and wandering, and had forgotten almost everything except the map and the key."
The Silmarillion wrote:To this Curunir (Saruman) now assented, desiring that Sauron should be thrust from Dol Guldur, which was nigh to the River (where the Ring was lost), and should have leisure to search there no longer. Therefore, for the last time, he aided the Council, and they put forth their strength; and they assailed Dol Guldur, and drove Sauron from his hold, and Mirkwood for a brief while was made wholesome again...
The Hobbit wrote:...It was in this way that he learned where Gandalf had been to; for he overheard the words of the wizard to Elrond. It appeared that Gandalf had been to a great council of the white wizards, masters of lore and good magic; and that they had at last driven the Necromancer from his dark hold in the south of Mirkwood.
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