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September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Rev. Sylvanus » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:55 pm

Hi folks,

So some might care and some might not care that I have not posted any battle reports for about five months. Moving, new jobs, training have all consumed my life (for the better) in that time and I have had little time to devote to the brikwar hobby aside from some slight expansions of my medieval forces and anxiously awaiting the release of MFZ.

Enter McLovin, a fellow colleague and lego enthusiast from his younger days. Some weeks ago I introduced him to my lego wargaming hobbies and he was instantly interested. Interested enough to bust out his classic castle collection, dust it off, and consider learning the rules to brikwars for some gaming action. Lego Castle nuts, McLovin has one of the most awesome collections of medieval lego imaginable, to the order of nearly every...EVERY set between the time-spans of Crusader to Dragon Master. That's a lot of minifigs and a lot of potential classic terrain :) So one afternoon before a regular game night, he brought over an army full of Forestmen (roughly 300CP) and we put some sparse obstacles on my dining table to engage in some introductory brikwar!

Turn Zero/Deployment

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Here is McLovin's deployment across the table. He is very archer heavy (a count of at least twelve, maybe more). His deployment is relatively even between his right, left, and center. His hero is one of the collectible Viking women whose cliche is somewhere between Conan the Barbarian and deadly opera singer.

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My Dragon Guard deployment is as you can see it. A dragon rider to the far right. Melee guys and Archers in the center with a Ballista, and a squad of knights to my far left. My hero is in the silver armor with an OTC longsword.

Tactically, the game played out very interesting, as you will see. Without giving too much away, I underestimated and made poor tactical decisions concerning his numbers of bowmen. They turned out to be a very robust unit. Armor, though powerful, also ended up being a major liability. But I don't want to ruin to much of the punchlines. You can see from the set-up that his advantage is the range department. My force has many harder-hitting units that will probably give him fits if they get close. Plus, I have armored units; he does not.

Turn 1

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In the first photo, you see my troops' general movements for the turn. Nothing too spectacular. In the next two shots you can see perspective from my guys on the movements of McLovin. Aggressively moving forward with his own Cavalry versus mine. I should note at this point that my horses are barded and armored, meaning their movement sucks.

Turn 2

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So here I made a silly tactical error. I underestimated the strength of his archers versus my dragon rider. Despite a decent armor and size bonus, he shot me out of the sky with no misses and one or two crits. And now I've got a slow-moving knight that he can just dance around.

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This shot is deceptive. I haven't actually charged anything because I was 1" out of range. Instead, I just moved up to "hug" his cavalry so his own charges would not get MOM dice. Shot a horse too.

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McLovin still decides to engage my cavalry with his. This is a pillow-fight though I think I took 1hp off a horse.

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And McLovin's center line, hero, and bodyguards move up in the center toward the tower.

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Oh...never mind, it wasn't a pillow-fight. Archers and lances actually slay one of my armored horses. Time for useless armored knight number 2.

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And on the right flank, archers and spearmen push forward, two of them decided to distract my dragon rider.

Turn 3

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On the right flank, my fighters and hero make a bee-line for McLovin's infantry and archers. Response fire initially cuts down two of my guys. But with a mighty feat and leap, the hero and his body guards beat down three of McLovin's spearmen.

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Having been detained by two of my mounted knights, the remaining two countercharge into McLovin's cavalry and wipe them off the map.

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On McLovin's turn, his archers eliminate the rest of my right-flank infantry, leaving the OTC hero quite exposed.

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With a combination of brute-strength and high-pitched singing, McLovin's Vikingess brings the central tower tumbling down on my ballista. The crew survives.

Turn 4

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Mobility is killing my forces. So, two of my knights use their action to sever the straps and barding off of two of the other mounted knights. Freed of their burdens, these two knights make sprinting charges into the enemy and slay some dudes.

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Archer fire eliminates McLovin's ghosties and the Dragon Guard infantry try to assault the exposed Vikingess.

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The archers on the right flank also sprint forward to provide their hero with red-shirts.

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On McLovin's turn, you can see what happened...spearman kills one of my archers and his forestmen in the background shoot down two more! So now it is my hero and one archers on this side. You might also remember that I had a dragon rider on this side fighting two spearmen...well pretty much nothing is happening over there. Lots of whiffs.

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But at this point, McLovin get's a brilliant idea. He decides he wants to shove the knights over so they can't get back up! Luckily, I parry this and most of his other attempts.

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The Vikingess, however, leaps across the battlefield and dispatches the dragon rider I was talking about.

Turn 5

OTC Hero uses a feat to do some spectacular footwork. He tosses his flaming sword at an archer (fails to kill :evil: ), picks up the spear of a fallen minifig, and charges into the archers....and the spear charge is CRITICAL, meaning +1d10 explosive damage!

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Sadly, the explosion damage is not enough to eliminate the squad! Darn it!

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General movements for the turn. Infantry and archers of the Dragon Guard moving forward. General mayhem.

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And over here dismounted knights do the best they can to pursue their much swifter adversaries.

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On McLovin's turn, the Vickingess dispatches OTC Hero's final redshirt.

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Plus, using their bows as random objects, two archers put 1 HP wound on my hero! Darn it!

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To add insult to injury, the Vikingess picks up my hero and tosses him a good 12" away :evil:

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McLovin's forestmen continue to dance around...

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...managing to eliminate some of their opponents.

Turn 6

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My hero gets up; probably tried a feat but I'm pretty sure it failed.

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Despite their incredible lack of speed, I try to use the armored knights to triangulate their targets...making it some SOMEONE can whack a forestman!

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But McLovin's mobility is making this incredibly difficult.

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Archers and Vikingess move around a bit...one dude is on fire but is really good with his armor roles.

Turn 7

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THe Dragon Guard hero attempts to use his shield as a sled to gain ground and charge at the Vikingess in a duel to the death. Feat failed, but he still slides within reach of the other hero...

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And she promptly nails him with a critical attack roll that explodes!

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Forestmen kill some more infantry...

Turn 8

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And the triangulation finally bears fruit. A knight is in contact with the archer group.

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And I've also decided on a new tactic. At this point all I have left is a handful of armored knights, and all McLovin really has let is a handful of archers. If I drop my armor, i'll get shot to pieces. So I do the next best thing, I have my knights confiscate some bows off of dead bodies. Now the game is a fire-fight and I've got the superior protection.

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However, even armored targets can fall to really, really nice critical hits!

Endgame

So that was my last photo. Let me tell you how the game ended. After a few turns of maneuvering and shooting, he has two archers left, and I have two armored knights left who are equipped with bows. We eventually reach a stalemate where he doesn't want to come within range of me for fear of being shot, and I can't actually chase after him. Under these conditions we call a draw and are collaborating on a much larger series of battles. The ending of this game may even become part of our next scenario, that our respective forces arrive on the field as a handful of archers from the previous battle are staring each other down.

Hope you enjoyed.

~ Rev
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby IVhorseman » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:40 pm

Heh. Same day I brikwarred Roc! Glad to see I wasn't the only one playing Brikwars that day...
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Zupponn » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:30 pm

Rev. Sylvanus wrote:So some might care and some might not care that I have not posted any battle reports for about five months.

I care! Your forum battles never fail to be fun reads. :D

Also, that's a lot of forestmen!
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Falk » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:46 am

:csi: Another report from Rev!! Why are do some of the horse's armor blue? Color scheme change?
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Rev. Sylvanus » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:40 am

Falk wrote::csi: Another report from Rev!! Why are do some of the horse's armor blue? Color scheme change?


Earlier this summer I decided to add some more cavalry units to the army. I could not find the exact colors I needed to replicate the old guys from just one or two Briklink stores, so I made the 4 new guys blue and red. It still fits the armies colors nicely since sergeants had blue arms and the wizard is blue. Lets me bust out the Lego Black Monarch shields alongside the Dragon Master shields, and confirms an old suspicion of mine back when the sets were current: Dragon Masters and Black Monarch are actually in cahoots with each other 8)

IVhorseman wrote:Heh. Same day I brikwarred Roc! Glad to see I wasn't the only one playing Brikwars that day...


Just means it was a good day!
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Predator » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:23 pm

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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Cakeman » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:52 pm

I always enjoy your reports, great to see you're ensnaring new recruits :)
The forestmen look cool, good to see an army of them and fun to read a report with mobility vs armour. Looking forward to the rest. Are the forestmen standard minifigs with bows or scouts/other experts?
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Rev. Sylvanus » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:03 pm

Cakeman wrote:I always enjoy your reports, great to see you're ensnaring new recruits :)
The forestmen look cool, good to see an army of them and fun to read a report with mobility vs armour. Looking forward to the rest. Are the forestmen standard minifigs with bows or scouts/other experts?


Why thank you, Cakeman. Almost all of the figs we played with were vanilla. Horsemen had 1d8 skill. All others except heros had 1d6 skill. Since he is new, I didn't bust out any of my custom special abilities. As we get some games under his belt, we'll see about adding the "advanced rules..."
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Scratch » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:26 pm

For those advanced rules, you are going to need a lot of fire rings.
Also, I really like how you add tactics to medieval warfare, which haven't been used outside 'serious' wargaming (of which I am completely ignorant) and modern/future battles, where the tactics get overshadowed by giant tanks and planes being imbalanced. It adds a cool aspect.
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Apollyon » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:46 am

Scratch wrote:Also, I really like how you add tactics to medieval warfare, which haven't been used outside 'serious' wargaming (of which I am completely ignorant) and modern/future battles, where the tactics get overshadowed by giant tanks and planes being imbalanced. It adds a cool aspect.


Modern/future games play differently of course because there are a lot more vehicles involved and usually everyone has ranged weapons. The only reason why such battles seem less tactical is because most people on this forum are just incompetent.
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby IVhorseman » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:50 am

^wholly agreed^
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Rev. Sylvanus » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:05 am

Apollyon wrote:Modern/future games play differently of course because there are a lot more vehicles involved and usually everyone has ranged weapons. The only reason why such battles seem less tactical is because most people on this forum are just incompetent.


I don't know that I'd say incompetent, but I've noticed as I've played that there can be a big difference in success and failure EVEN in brikwars based on the player's wargaming history. Veteran wargamers I've played made for good and thought-provoking battles; folks without that experience seem to attack with abandon with a much lesser sense of organization. There are strategies to be had in both modern and medieval brikwars.
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Bragallot » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:08 am

Both require tactics I guess, having played both I generally think Fantasy battles allow you to get more creative, not just because of the (usually) greater variety of weapons. Sci-fi battles may also seem less tactical sometimes because it's usually difficult to make it completely clear to the host what you're trying to do, often times they'd forget about the fact you've set response fire, etc... not to mention building a realistic cityscape / battleground which offers more tactical options for a Scifi battle (I do think how you 'use' the battlefield is of greater importance in a Scifi fight) is difficult and incredibly time consuming.

The random factor remains really important even when you use 'good' tactics though. Brikwars has the most randomness of all, and I know I keep referring to it, but the VoL getting wiped out in Killing Time despite their 7 armour and near immunity to most of the defender's firearms remains the best example of this :)

This was a really good battle with cool tactics involved. It's how I imagine Forestmen would fight an army of armoured knights. You can see armour always comes in handy in the end though.
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Rev. Sylvanus » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:19 pm

And for me, at least, the heightened randomness helps keep the matches light-hearted.

McLovin and I played two more battles this weekend as he continues to grasp the rules, and he is quite adept at the forestmen guerrilla tactics. In the first of the two, he actually wiped the floor with me, though this was also owing to having a bunch of light cavalry that eliminated my armor before the archers picked everything apart. Game two I played wiser against such skirmish maneuvers and introduced him to the devastation of rockets a-la my dragon cannon :twisted:
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Re: September 30 Brikwar @ Susquehanna: Another New Guy

Postby Natalya » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:49 am

How were you getting 1d10 explosion critical successes?
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