Star Wars Supplement

[birdman]

many are of the impression that it is superior, just too in-depth. think of 2001 being to 2005 what rogue trader was to 4th edition.

4th edition is awesome and you know it (seriously, I just came back from the most brutal delve in my life).

Oh also (Rayhawk, listen up), they plopped gnomes AND bards into PHB 2, so Büttrøck can live again.

um, i was talking about 40k.

[tahthing]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
it can't desolve into chaos without somebody saying that.

[knight508]

Here's a selection of the units (again, 2001 Edition) available in the addendum to this supplement, which will be added within the next week or so.

Clone Trooper

• Move: 4"
  Armor: 1d6+7
  Skill: 1d6
  Cost: 9 CP (14 CP w/ equipment)
  Specialty: none
  Ratio: None (troop)
  Equipment:
  +[Blaster Carbine |Range 14"|UR 3(6)|Damage 1d6+1]+
  +[Clone Armor (+1d6 AV)]+

Rebel Officer

• Move: 5"
  Armor: 8
  Skill: 1d6+1
  Cost: 10 CP (16 CP w/ equipment)
  Specialty: Leadership (+2 CP)
  Ratio: 1 for every 5 troops
  Equipment:
  +[Blaster Carbine |Range 14"|UR 3(6)|Damage 1d6+1]+
  +[Macrobinoculars]+

Imperial Engineer

• Move: 5"
  Armor: 8
  Skill: 1d6
  Cost: 9 CP (19 CP w/ equipment)
  Specialty: Mechanikal Ability
  Ration: 1 per Vehicle
  Equipment:
  +[Blaster Pistol |Range 12"|UR 3(6)|Damage 1d6]+
  +[Mechanik's Tools]+
  +[MkI Explosive |Range --|UR 3|Damage 1d10+3 exp]+

[pesgores]

Clone Trooper

Armor: 1d6+7

WTF Isn't that too overpowered?

[tahthing]

yer especialy for a mass unit!

[knight508]

WTF Isn't that too overpowered?

TL+1 is the basic Trooper Armor. 6+1 = 7. +1d6 for armor = 1d6+7. Slightly overpowered, yes, but I prefer to use 2005 Minifig stats with 2001 rules and Specialties.
That actually is one of my biggest peeves of 2001 ed. All Units and Platforms are just too hard to kill![/quote]

[Theblackdog]

Actually, there are no D6es involved. The AV is just seven. Also: when you're using TL6 units with high AVs you generally want to equip them with either Gyro rifles (same stats as 2005 rifles but with 1D6+3 damage) or Impact rifles (UR 5, Rng 12", Dmg 2D6). My houserules for anti-infantry weapons include a (+TL-3) modifier, so that standardized weapons will increase in power to match increasing AVs.

[knight508]

The 1d6 is for their armor.

[Rayhawk]

many are of the impression that it is superior, just too in-depth. think of 2001 being to 2005 what rogue trader was to 4th edition.

4th edition is awesome and you know it (seriously, I just came back from the most brutal delve in my life).

Oh also (Rayhawk, listen up), they plopped gnomes AND bards into PHB 2, so Büttrøck can live again.

um, i was talking about 40k.

What's sad is that even though I knew what Rogue Trader was, I still thought you were talking about D&D4e.

[Theblackdog]

The 1d6 is for their armor.

It still needs to go. If I read this supplement right your armor is 7+1D6, but your weapons' damage is 1D6+1. Do you realize exactly how hard it will be to kill someone with this much armor, using a 1D6+1 gun? You would need to roll a six, and then roll again and get something almost as good. I would consider my army roughly equivalent to clone troopers, and they have 7 armor (without a die roll) and guns with 1D6+3 damage. The chance of a 1D6+3 gun killing a trooper with AV 7 is exactly 1/2.

[knight508]

I'm uploading some stat cards for this supplement. I've been noticing that the stat cards on this forum can be a little *koff koff*... lacking. So, naturally, I've decided to spice up this forum a little bit by adding some stat cards relating to Star Wars. Whaddya think?

[Tarren]

This entire thread is rapidly dissolving into chaos. The point of this was to act as as sounding board for a new supplement, not an infantile argumentation arena.

Get used to it, this IS the Brikwars forums.

[Rayhawk]

It still needs to go. If I read this supplement right your armor is 7+1D6, but your weapons' damage is 1D6+1. Do you realize exactly how hard it will be to kill someone with this much armor, using a 1D6+1 gun? You would need to roll a six, and then roll again and get something almost as good. I would consider my army roughly equivalent to clone troopers, and they have 7 armor (without a die roll) and guns with 1D6+3 damage. The chance of a 1D6+3 gun killing a trooper with AV 7 is exactly 1/2.

I must not have written this section of the rulebook very clearly, because I read this same argument over and over again. If someone has so much armor that it's incredibly difficult to kill him with one shot... use two. Little guns do just as much damage as a big gun, if you have enough of them.

I think it was one of the things that made the 2001 games a lot more interesting, tactically; you had to coordinate attacks a lot more, since troops working alone had less ability to be effective.

[Theblackdog]

It still needs to go. If I read this supplement right your armor is 7+1D6, but your weapons' damage is 1D6+1. Do you realize exactly how hard it will be to kill someone with this much armor, using a 1D6+1 gun? You would need to roll a six, and then roll again and get something almost as good. I would consider my army roughly equivalent to clone troopers, and they have 7 armor (without a die roll) and guns with 1D6+3 damage. The chance of a 1D6+3 gun killing a trooper with AV 7 is exactly 1/2.

I must not have written this section of the rulebook very clearly, because I read this same argument over and over again. If someone has so much armor that it's incredibly difficult to kill him with one shot... use two. Little guns do just as much damage as a big gun, if you have enough of them.

I think it was one of the things that made the 2001 games a lot more interesting, tactically; you had to coordinate attacks a lot more, since troops working alone had less ability to be effective.

Really? I just used higher-tech weapons to offset the high-tech armor.