Star Wars Army Codex

[Azshuran Empire]

i realize i didn't notice the bit about the ten year old. which in all honesty i first thought [ ] you were simply being an ass (talking to ross) but i see what you were getting at. i think the stats should be applied as if you were facing people you own age. but the ten year olds army should automatically get like +10 to every roll. then no matter what he does he's a champ.

Edit: i thought the whole kid thing was a hypothetical at first. something mentioned by a commenter

[RagnarokRose]

Yes, because I obviously talk shit like that about rule modifications that someone is going to end up using. Have you seen any of my work? Oh, no, that's right, because I haven't posted anything of relevance in a year's time. That suggestion just didn't really /fit/ the question, is all. Apologies.

The exemplified, tl;dr, version of this thread is- Fudge it. Because it's close enough and makes for a better game.

[Ben-Jammin]

Ok Azshuran, I sent you some PMs, but did you get them? I can see they are in my outbox, but my computer's been crap lately and so I'd like to know if you got them.

Thank you for the insightful and awesome ideas / responses / advice, guys! I shall certainly utilize them in the coming battle. I was wondering, however, is there a place I could look up the denominations of LEGO clone troopers? As in what does a Sergeant looks like? Who wears the one-sided collar things and "skirts"? Which ones are pilots? How can you tell, etc.? I want to be as accurate as possible in my representaiotn of the clone troopers and such.

Thanks in advance for all your ongoing help!

For my clone sergeants, I just equip them with the ARC trooper gear. The one-sided collar things you refer to are called pauldrons, and are used to denote rank and carry some small additional supplies, namely a couple of extra ammo packs. The skirt thing is known as a Kama, and is made of a thick, blast-resistant material (similar somewhat to a fireman's suit) that is used to protect the wearer's legs from blast shrapnel, in addition to looking cool. I also put some helemt accessories on the sergeants. The long visor thing is a sun visor, while the anntenna thing is a targeting device and the smaller bullet-shaped device is a helmet-mounted flashlight.

[jorgevorg]

For my clone sergeants, I just equip them with the ARC trooper gear. The one-sided collar things you refer to are called pauldrons, and are used to denote rank and carry some small additional supplies, namely a couple of extra ammo packs. The skirt thing is known as a Kama, and is made of a thick, blast-resistant material (similar somewhat to a fireman's suit) that is used to protect the wearer's legs from blast shrapnel, in addition to looking cool. I also put some helemt accessories on the sergeants. The long visor thing is a sun visor, while the anntenna thing is a targeting device and the smaller bullet-shaped device is a helmet-mounted flashlight.

That is a lot of extremwly useful information! I, myself, did not grow up wth "Star Wars" (I blame my socialist upbringing and, you know, the Motherland. In Soviet Russia the bricks build you, orseeme such nonsense . ) so I am not up and up on the Star Wars lore. I think I need to get that "Star Wars Minifig Encyclopedia" book. It will definitely help.

Now a few questions about the ARC Troopers, etc.

Brickipedia confirms the validity of what you have mentioned, Ben. Extra shoulder bits/skirt/visor thingy = ARC Clone. However, with the arrivals of he most recent Clone Battle Pack (the one with the Bomb Squad Clone Troopers which I love, because they're orange! ), the ARC Trooper is denoted by having a specific and distinctly unique ARC Helmet and insignia. Is this an update or rework of the older-style clip-on-visor-on-a-generic-helmet or is it some new flavor of ARC Clone Trooper (much like the new generic Trooper in sand green armor or the Wolf Pack trooper/Captain from the Republic Gunship set)? Does anyone know for sure?

What do Sergeants wear that distinguishes them visually?

Do all Clone Pilot Troopers wear yellow-striped, round cog insignia helmets or is it only for the pilots of the flying machines and spaceships? And, while we are at it, do vehicles require Pilot Troopers to drive them?

Can anyone think of any other "flavors" of Clones released to date, save for the Wolf Pack, Pilot, New ARC, Bomb Squad and the Sand Green troopers? What are the "mandalorian blue" clone troopers I some times see in MOCs?

The 2010 edition of the Rulebook reserves the 24" per turn movement for something the size and alacrity of a starship. However, the updated "Clone Wars" Clone Tank is massive and seems to be able to haul a bit of ass. Does it seem logical to restrict that behemoth to standard 10" per turn movement rate reserved for Tanks?

That's it for now, thanks for all your advice and help!

[Azshuran Empire]

[@ben-jammin] no sadly. try resending them? if it's uber important i'll just send you my email adress(or if it's on my profile just use that, as i -don't recall if i made my email available on here)

and also (@ross) i'm having dificulty interpreting your tone. being that this is the interwebs things like sarcasm and hostility/hospitality have to be made *really* obvious in "most" circumstances.
so simply put; are we good now?

[Azshuran Empire]

The 2010 edition of the Rulebook reserves the 24" per turn movement for something the size and alacrity of a starship. However, the updated "Clone Wars" Clone Tank is massive and seems to be able to haul a bit of ass. Does it seem logical to restrict that behemoth to standard 10" per turn movement rate reserved for Tanks?

That's it for now, thanks for all your advice and help!

rule of fudge: fudge everything your opponents will let you get away with

[Whiteagle]

However, with the arrivals of he most recent Clone Battle Pack (the one with the Bomb Squad Clone Troopers which I love, because they're orange! ), the ARC Trooper is denoted by having a specific and distinctly unique ARC Helmet and insignia. Is this an update or rework of the older-style clip-on-visor-on-a-generic-helmet or is it some new flavor of ARC Clone Trooper (much like the new generic Trooper in sand green armor or the Wolf Pack trooper/Captain from the Republic Gunship set)? Does anyone know for sure?

That's not an ARC (Advanced Recon Commando) Trooper Jorgevorg, that's an ARF (Advanced Recon Force) Trooper.

The difference is the former is analogous to a Navy SEAL, while the latter is a scout meant to gather intel.

[IVhorseman]

I wouldn't give that Turbo Tank a speed of 24" and even 16" seems a bit fast, but I agree that 8 is too few. Maybe 12-14?

[Insert_blank]

When the Clone Wars started some troops had red or blue on their arms to show rank. Maybe blue was a lieutenant and red was a captain or something similar? This disappeared quickly as clones started decorating their armor individually but it could work for you in a pinch.

Technically ARCs were sort of like special forces troops and not squad leaders but I think you can fudge that safely enough.

All clones can pilot but the pilot troops were expert at it so they'd have some bonuses that the normal clones wouldn't have.

Do you have any of the named clones like Cody or Rex? You could switch a few a few arms out with blue and make them Rex's 501st men or some orange ones to be Cody's (EDIT: 212th Attack Battalion)

http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_trooper Here's a list of all variations that you can check out and read up on.

[jorgevorg]

Technically ARCs were sort of like special feces troops and not squad leaders but I think you can fudge that safely enough.

And there I thought they were remarkably regular, what with the steady regiment of fiber in a typical Clone Trooper diet!

In all seriousness, thanks! Those are fantastic ideas. I don't have Cody or Rex, though it wouldn't be too hard finding them on Bricklink. I was really interested in putting together a 7 man Wolfpacksquad, including Commander Wolffe. However,mthat is proving prohibitively expensive at $16+ apiece.

[Ben-Jammin]

You can make a cool-looking clone trooper squad just by mixing and matching a few various parts. If, for instance, you want a green squad, just put green arms on the clones. I've also seen that the dark grey legs with the decals from the newest space police series looks great on the clones. If you don't have any green or colored helemets, the clone gunner helmet can make for a nice stand-in. Above all else though, don't sharpie them. That (unfortunately) is so overdone.

[jorgevorg]

Honestly, I wold never attempt to paint my clone minifigs. I am a little shocked that it is, apparently, a common practice.

I am attempting to remain as close to cannon as possible. I think I will end up with a couple of squads o generic troopers (all white)' some specialty units like a 6 man bomb squad, a squad of ARF clones ( we are talking 5-6 clones per squad), a squad of ARC Elite and a squad based on an existing commander character like Cody, Rex or Gree. Gree might be most likely due to is squad members are included with the most recent Clone Trooper Battle Pack and he himself will be a part of a Geonosian Cannon unit, of which I am planning to get 2-4 of.

To at end, anyone knows which orange torsos most closely resemble the Cody Orange?

On the CIS side, I will get a unch of droids, as it is inexpensive and easy t do. The rest will depend onavailabili of CIS based sets, of which there re or many this year.

[Ben-Jammin]

A lot of my clones are just the generic white; I actually prefer them that way. My heavy weapons specialists have sun visors on their helmets and shoulder pauldrons to distinguish them from the rest of the troops, while the officers have kamas and some are equipped with a flashlight and targeting antenna. I have a few bomb squad troops, and I gave my gunners the piloting specialty as well as the gunnery one so that they could pilot and use heavy vehicular weapons with ease. After all I have like ten or twelve gunners and only three or four pilots. I also have two captain rexes, two commander foxes, three of the green clones (one of whom I made a commander), and a few ARF troopers.