Rethinking the 4 Horsemen & the Dichotomy of the Brikverse

[Kastrenzo]

This is a carry-over from a conversation on discord today

While working on one of my armies and thinking about how Ken co-opted the Orks from Warhammer into the Brootalz, I was doing a similar thing with one of my armies that's supposed to be "the Chaos" of Brikwars.

Upon starting a discussion about it, Some others like Bookwyrm mentioned how it relates to the 4 horsemen of the Brikopalypse. Peace, Justice, Stability and Poop.

Of course in a world that's all about war, the concept of peace and such is treated as a bad thing, but in-world, most people don't make armies that act like the VOL, Immortals or Brootalz, that just attack everything and everyone, we had 5-10 years of pretend space UN with people making alliances and doing peacetime soaps and the sort.

While looking at the 4 horsemen, We talked about changing the horsemen up a little and creating a "Dichotimy" of the brikverse, Identifying some of the fundemental concepts that people explore and often are at odds over.

We picked a number of "traits" that we would associate with each mentality or side, and arranged them in a way that it was layered, it wouldn't just be Peace vs War. but Peace and Friendship vs War and Angst, etc. groups in the brikverse don't have to be all of one category to "take a side".... and they don't even have to take a side at all. But some that do, do so in the extreme to the point that it is unusual, like the Brootalz being warlike, or the Polish trying to be peaceful, etc.

also. We wanted to in essence, create 4 "Chaos Gods" to be the foils to the 4 Horsemen. at this point we are abandoning any sense of good vs bad. Both sides of the fence have good and bad things about them, the words are purely subjective.

it should also be mentioned that for the most part, horsemen, gods, etc. don't actually exist, they are Ideas, more so than that they are deities, avatars, etc. (but we did explicitly try to create Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzneetch equivalents when thinking of the traits for the chaotic side)

at this point this is still just a work in progress, but I wanted to post this in length to get people's opinions

[Kastrenzo]

I also wanted to point out that the Rich vs Poor thing is a little contentious, we had thought that the whole "Poop" thing needed to stick around, and specifically mentioned the deliberately horrifying ugly monstrosities people have made. And the only thing we could come up with as an opposite to low effort crap, was fancy, posh, trying-too-hard stuff. its weird.. don't ask.

that one by far is the biggest example of it being horribly bad on both sides.

[Tzan]

This all looks really good.

and, as you said:

The Poop thing needs to stick.

[ninja_bait]

Is this going to be the MBTI of Brikwars factions?

[Kastrenzo]

apparentley rayhawk posted on discord his idea of a version for this, but I have yet to read it, I've been either really sick, or really tired every time I think of it.

right now, I'm the latter.

[Natalya]

I think this is trying too hard. I think the most important thing one can do is make LEGO dudes murder eachother.

Peace is the truest weakness of all the great empires. That's why I had to bring Dora the Explorien and General Glamface Nixon back. Those are like the only zany murder characters I've created. I also probably ought to revive Annabegga. But these are all individual characters. I only had one small and short-lived bloodthirsty death faction.

[Venge]

I think this is trying too hard. I think the most important thing one can do is make LEGO dudes murder eachother.

Peace is the truest weakness of all the great empires. That's why I had to bring Dora the Explorien and General Glamface Nixon back. Those are like the only zany murder characters I've created. I also probably ought to revive Annabegga. But these are all individual characters. I only had one small and short-lived bloodthirsty death faction.

Exactly. I personally don't care so much for all the AN stuff and complicated alliances and blah blah politics. Just gimmie the good ol' Immortal War any time. It's why the VOL have always been my favorite faction, and I wrote my most recent BrikFic (The Sound and The Fury) as a deliberate attempt to gently nudge the BrikVerse back in the direction of uncomplicated violence.