The official LOOT topic

Post by **Hoboman** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:20 pm

Went to the Lego store to sign up my son for the Oct Lego Club, while we were there I bought eight packs of the Series 2 mini-figures.

We pulled the:
Life Guard
Spartan
Explorer
Ringmaster
Karate Guy
Pharaoh (I love the Staff)
Disco Guy
Dracula

Overall, not a bad lot.

Post by **aoffan23** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:39 pm

Swordsalmon wrote:
Yeah, but I hope they come out with a theme that uses those helmets, or else the making of that piece will be a pretty big waste.
I hope they do, but it's a bit doubful due to Lego's anti-military policies. Though I could easily see them adding a guy with the helmet in the new Egyptian Theme; maybe a former soldier now exploring the ruins?

I would agree, but pretty much all of Lego's adventure themes are filled with violence.

Agents: Everyone has a gun, chainsaw, dynamite, etc.
Castle: just look at the sets and you'll understand.
Alpha Team, Adventurers, Dino Attack (but not Dino 2010), Pirates, Exo-Force, Mars Mission, and Atlantis are other examples.

However, most of the violence is either cartoonish violence, or reasonable and fitting with the conflict, such as in Mars Mission where the aliens are attacking the humans who are invading their planet.

Also, I understand that war-based and violence-based are two different things, but I have two things to say about that, each with their own counterargument.

1. Indiana Jones was based during the war, no? Although I haven't seen the movies (shame on me, I know), the sets have military vehicles and Russian and German "bad guys", so I would assume this is the case.

Counter: the war isn't the point of the story, and comes secondary to the treasure hunting, so it's easier to let slide.

2. A quote from The LEGO Book (referring to the Sopwith Camel model from 2001, published last year): "The Sopwith Camel was that rarest of things: a LEGO 'war' model." So I don't think they're completely against making war sets, but rather tries to avoid it. The Red Baron model is also featured on the same page, and both sets include guns.

Counter: The models are just that: models. They're meant as display pieces, and don't exactly have any violence as a standalone set. Also, even if they only avoid war sets, they probably still won't make a theme based around it.

Wow, huge wall of text, pretty pointless, too.

Post by **Tzan** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:51 pm

I skipped it.
Read the last line and was very happy that he was so honest.

Post by **RunsWithLegos** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:52 pm

Wall of text that is not, but it has a few very good points.

Post by **Swordsalmon** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:48 pm

1. Indiana Jones was based during the war, no? Although I haven't seen the movies (shame on me, I know), the sets have military vehicles and Russian and German "bad guys", so I would assume this is the case.

The Indiana Jones sets are licensed, though, so that might have changed the policy (Though highly unlikely). And none of the Jones sets are actually set in battle.

I probably worded that incorrectly. The model sets are always historical, but mainline sets would never (And unfortunately) depict any sort of war. All the violence in Lego are fantastical, so that's really the only way they get away with any violence. Except in Germany, where they still had Dino-Attack changed because it was 'too violent'.

Post by **stubby** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:54 am

German moms are the bane of Lego designers' existence, it was a great day when they started letting us design separate versions of sets for Germany and the U.S.

Every Lego set before that was considered a "too violent" version like U.S. Dino Attack, and every single one got changed to appease the German moms. Warhead has not been doing his job over there.

Post by **Warhead** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:07 am

Hey! They filled the damn place with beer as a defence, what can I do!

Post by **Colonel-Kermit** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:24 am

Surly bear only increases your productivity, well for a set amount of time.

Post by **Warhead** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:14 am

Colonel-Kermit wrote:Surly bear only increases your productivity, well for a set amount of time.

Shag moar moms or we'll set the bear on you?.. How rude!..

Post by **OneEye589** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:33 am

A surly bear, even.

Post by **RagnarokRose** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:46 am

stubby wrote:Every Lego set before that was considered a "too violent" version like U.S. Dino Attack, and every single one got changed to appease the German moms. Warhead has not been doing his job over there.

Heh, I was wondering why I couldn't find any good Lego over there. Figured that since I was in Europe, I could at least find something that I wouldn't be able to find in the US, but all it was were the Lego boardgames...

Post by **Warhead** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:54 am

I find the Germans always seem to hog the most Lego on Briklink and they also add surprise VAT and German Xenophobic tax to all shipments. Who won the fuckin' WAR!

Post by **Colonel-Kermit** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:13 pm

In communist Russia Lego buys you.

Post by **ikensall** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:16 pm

In Russia their lego is split between them all. It is also transported in morris marinas and nuclear misslile transporters.

Post by **ikensall** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:03 pm

Silverdream wrote:Would a philosoraptor still be cool... if he was a black man?

I don't know.But he may turn into a mix of nelson mandella and barrack obuma