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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by RagnarokRose » Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:59 pm

Well, did you see all the shots of Gandalf in the trailer? I get the feeling that we'll be seeing a bit more of "his side of the story" - there's a bloody lot of stuff he did that he just mentions offhand in The Hobbit, going to find Thorin's father- I think- for instance, and his whole adventure over that bit.
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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by OneEye589 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:58 pm

But it's gonna be awesome because Guillermo Del Toro wrote the screenplays (Hellboy, Pan's Labyrinth, The Devil Backbone, Splice).

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by morganm » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:49 am

I like The Hobbit way more than Lord of the Rings. LotR just seemed like a longer, more drawn out, Hobbit story. Not saying it's bad or anything... but if I had to rank them I would easily put The Hobbit ahead of LotR.

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by morganm » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:51 am

Ross_Varn wrote:Well, did you see all the shots of Gandalf in the trailer? I get the feeling that we'll be seeing a bit more of "his side of the story" - there's a bloody lot of stuff he did that he just mentions offhand in The Hobbit, going to find Thorin's father- I think- for instance, and his whole adventure over that bit.
That would be pretty interesting to see some of the side quests Gandalf went on. There was also the necromancer he mentions. These are also parts where they can add their own to the story with out taking away from the original.

Unlike what they did with LotR... for example when they added the damn breaking during the battle at Isengard. I was like "uh.... wtf? That didn't happen in the book and why was there any need to do this?"

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by OneEye589 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:02 am

As long as they don't mess with the original story, I see no harm in making short side-stories that don't take anything away. They might even be taken from Tolkien's writings anyway, or at least heavily drawn from.

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by stubby » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:18 pm

morganm wrote:Unlike what they did with LotR... for example when they added the damn breaking during the battle at Isengard. I was like "uh.... wtf? That didn't happen in the book and why was there any need to do this?"
They didn't flood Isengard in the books? I thought they did, but I'm too far away from any copies to check. I liked some of the other big changes just because they had the hobbits stare straight into the camera and say "we're not even supposed to be here" with a giant wink. Maybe minus the giant wink part.
OneEye589 wrote:As long as they don't mess with the original story, I see no harm in making short side-stories that don't take anything away. They might even be taken from Tolkien's writings anyway, or at least heavily drawn from.
I strongly expect that they'll be taken from the other side stories from the original writings. There was plenty of other stuff going on at the same time; Saruman's role will probably be to advise Gandalf not to bother worrying about the Necromancer: "don't worry guy! look over here!"
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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by RagnarokRose » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:41 pm

Either I'm confusing the Simarillion and The Hobbit again, or after Gandalf and the party split up, he actually met up with several other of this wizard buddies and went to confront the darkness at the core of Mirkwood, which was actually guess who? Yeah. The Dark Lord was just chilling there. I suspect we'll see a /little/ bit of that.
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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by morganm » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:04 pm

I think that was the Simarillion cuz when Gandolf left the dwarves and hobbit during The Hobbit he was gone. You didn't hear anything about him until he showed up again, gave a little explanation about what he was up to, and on with the The Hobbit story.

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by Ben-Jammin » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:22 pm

Either I'm confusing the Simarillion and The Hobbit again, or after Gandalf and the party split up, he actually met up with several other of this wizard buddies and went to confront the darkness at the core of Mirkwood, which was actually guess who? Yeah. The Dark Lord was just chilling there. I suspect we'll see a /little/ bit of that.
I'm hoping to see that as well. I always wanted to know what Sauron the Necromancer looked like, as well as how he went through life and stuff in his spirit-like form there.

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by ikensall » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:48 pm

The hobbits better have hairy feet like the ones in the book, that was my favourite bit about them, else i'm not buying those sets (atleast not for the figures).


EDIT: I'm not buying them anyway, cause they're FUCKIN' PEACHIES. WHY TLG, WHHYYYY BITCHES!

SERIOUS: It would be nice if we could get some non-peach "popular culture" figs (or whatever you call characters in movies).

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by OneEye589 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:34 pm

ikensall wrote:SERIOUS: It would be nice if we could get some non-peach "popular culture" figs (or whatever you call characters in movies).
... Movie figures?

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by enders_shadow » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:20 am

I expect that most of the reason to split it into two movies was money (because who would pay for half of a movie?) That said, I also believe that they're going to put quite a bit more Gandalf ass-kicking into this (also- Gandalf/Galadriel wtf?) which I am definitely looking forward to. Hopefully this doesn't end up like Deathly Hallows part II, and just be a completely different story under the same title.

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by Rev. Sylvanus » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:00 am

enders_shadow wrote:I expect that most of the reason to split it into two movies was money.
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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by morganm » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:58 am

...or they split it into two movies because it's a pretty long, epic, story to tell in film but most ppl don't want to sit through a 3-5 hour film?

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Re: one ring to rule them all

Post by RunsWithLegos » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:04 pm

morganm wrote:...or they split it into two movies because it's a pretty long, epic, story to tell in film but most ppl don't want to sit through a 3-5 hour film?
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