Simple Grappling hooks/jetpacks

[RunsWithLegos]

btw welcome back aoffan!

[aoffan23]

Well I've been back for a bit now, but thank you nonetheless!

[IVhorseman]

I guess we could give the minifig the action anyway; mainly for the greater potential awesomeness

Yeah, that's pretty much my entire argument right there.

Some grappling hooks are one-handed, others are two. Some are withdrawn by cabled winches, others by hand. In either case, a minifig would at least have the option to "sprint" up the rope/chain, no?

[stubby]

I always just figured grappling hooks were one of the things you can load into a Launcher. Unfortunately this means that a regular minifig-carried launcher (max WS 1", so max PS" 0) wouldn't be strong enough to pull (reverse Launch) the minifig up by itself, so he'd mostly be climbing the rope under his own power. That's all fine, most grappling hooks work that way in real life in any case.

In order to do the Batman-style thing, that's where we need the custom rules, since the Launcher would have to be size 2" to be strong enough to pull the minifig up. I'd definitely force the grapple launch and the rope retraction to be on separate turns though, to give enemies the chance to mess with it.

[IVhorseman]

Do you need spider gymnastix to climb rope at full speed?

[Gungnir]

What about swinging?
*raises shield*

[IVhorseman]

Good question. I imagine that you can swing in a standard pendulum motion: if you are 4" away horizontally from the overhead beam you grappled to, then you may swing 4" past it. I'd also just fudge it and let you do a cool swing if you want to do a cool swing, though.

[IX_Legion]

And if the tug-of-war lasts more than one turn, the hero will let go of the rope and shoot the people on the other side as they hilariously collapse and stagger into each other.

Fixd.

[Voin]

I always just figured grappling hooks were one of the things you can load into a Launcher. Unfortunately this means that a regular minifig-carried launcher (max WS 1", so max PS" 0) wouldn't be strong enough to pull (reverse Launch) the minifig up by itself, so he'd mostly be climbing the rope under his own power. That's all fine, most grappling hooks work that way in real life in any case.

In order to do the Batman-style thing, that's where we need the custom rules, since the Launcher would have to be size 2" to be strong enough to pull the minifig up. I'd definitely force the grapple launch and the rope retraction to be on separate turns though, to give enemies the chance to mess with it.

[quote="2010 Rulebook]A Launcher can fire a group of one or more Explosives with a combined Explosive Size up to the Launcher's own Weapon Size, or a group of one or more regular objects up to one half the Weapon Size, rounded down (this means that a Size 1 Launcher is limited to either Size 1 Explosives or Size 0 objects like minifig equipment or Vermin).[/quote]

To keep it simple, I would say that a minifig grappling hook (representing something like a Bat-zipline-gadget) would be a Size-0 piece of minifig equipment.

[Voin]

I just had an idea: for an independantly-powered grappling hook (like what Batman or a snowspeeder would have), why not just buy inches of movement directly into the winch like a vehicle?

[Colette]

Home brewed slash harken stats for Knightmare mechs:

Slash Harken: Size 1 launcher that does 1d6 damage and initiates a AutoGrab upon successful hit. All subsequent attacks between the mech and whatever it hit are autohits, and the target’s movement is limited by the string. Upon successful hit, the mech is entitled to one free attack (this ghetto stopgap was added to cover up a tactical issue).

As a separate action, a pilot can roll his skill against the target’s size (size - skill). The difference is how much the mech reels itself towards the target if positive or how much the target is reeled in if negative.

If people don't like the ghetto stopgap, then I can rule that Knighmare pilots must have Multitasking in order to graduate Anime Pilot academy.

[Quantumsurfer]

I thought it was autohits if adjacent and then you were going to give the pilot a bonus to hit if they weren't.