M-Throne Imperial Army Overview [2024 UPDATE]

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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Kaplan » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:47 am

HonoreBalzac wrote:How do your troops get to the battlefield, no transports, logistics, support?
I have only one open personel carrier and 2 armored carrıers (on the rıght upper corner). Maybe I need more flying and land transports to make the army more "realistic". They could simply "walk" to to battlefıeld like WWI. Also Hyperıon could transport more than 60 in its cargo bay.

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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Honore » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:13 am

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HonoreBalzac wrote:How do your troops get to the battlefield, no transports, logistics, support?
I have only one open personel carrier and 2 armored carrıers (on the rıght upper corner). Maybe I need more flying and land transports to make the army more "realistic". They could simply "walk" to to battlefıeld like WWI. Also Hyperıon could transport more than 60 in its cargo bay.
To be honest, each squad of two fire teams (10 men) should have a IFV, or an infantry fighting vehicle, and that IFV should be light enough to be picked up by something along the lines of a helicopter (CH-47 chinook), or futuristic dropship. You also don't have any mortar units, or artillery units to support the infantry when they request fire missions. The only support that they would get are from those bulky super tanks, but it's very easy to de-tread a tank, and once a tank's de-treaded, it's a pillbox.

You have too much heavy armor and no mobility, the Germans at the out break of WW2 didn't beat the French because they had better tanks, but their tanks were faster and would communicate effectively. Unless your battlefield is a city covering every single surface of the planet, I would at least suggest diversifying and investing in faster deployment/transport.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Kaplan » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:08 am

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HonoreBalzac wrote:How do your troops get to the battlefield, no transports, logistics, support?
I have only one open personel carrier and 2 armored carrıers (on the rıght upper corner). Maybe I need more flying and land transports to make the army more "realistic". They could simply "walk" to to battlefıeld like WWI. Also Hyperıon could transport more than 60 in its cargo bay.
To be honest, each squad of two fire teams (10 men) should have a IFV, or an infantry fighting vehicle, and that IFV should be light enough to be picked up by something along the lines of a helicopter (CH-47 chinook), or futuristic dropship. You also don't have any mortar units, or artillery units to support the infantry when they request fire missions. The only support that they would get are from those bulky super tanks, but it's very easy to de-tread a tank, and once a tank's de-treaded, it's a pillbox.

You have too much heavy armor and no mobility, the Germans at the out break of WW2 didn't beat the French because they had better tanks, but their tanks were faster and would communicate effectively. Unless your battlefield is a city covering every single surface of the planet, I would at least suggest diversifying and investing in faster deployment/transport.
This is a sci-fi army. There will be teleportation devices etc therefore I don't need too many transport vehicles whatsoever. But I agree that mobility is an important issue and I want to build Drop Pods (like the ones of Space Marines of Warhammer 40k).

I could plan to build artillery units if Brikwars rules support bombardment units in future but there are no effective rules for bombardment yet.

Moreover the Hyperion Tank does not have treads but tens of large wheels INSIDE THE SIDE ARMOR therefore nobody can detread the tank.

WWII German tanks have better ARMOR and larger GUNS which ere the primary advanges and not the speed.
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Ofcourse I know that in real time no Super Tank is economically and tactically more advantageous than having many smaller tanks. But Super Tanks are one of the coolest thing you can see in Brikwars.

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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Honore » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:34 am

Just one thread ago you would suggest your troops march into battle like world war one, not to mention, 40k is not sci-fi, it's sci-fi fantasy, not even modern military forces fight like how the IG does.

And that's cool that you have giant wheels, but how does that thing traverse off road without traction?

And at the out break of WW2, German's had Pz 1,2, and 3's, which were outclassed by the french heavy armor.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Kaplan » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:49 am

HonoreBalzac wrote:Just one thread ago you would suggest your troops march into battle like world war one, not to mention, 40k is not sci-fi, it's sci-fi fantasy, not even modern military forces fight like how the IG does.

And that's cool that you have giant wheels, but how does that thing traverse off road without traction?

And at the out break of WW2, German's had Pz 1,2, and 3's, which were outclassed by the french heavy armor.
In brikwars there are super Hower tanks. If you are fine with them you should have no problem with wheels either. I told tou already, In real life using such Supertanks would be stupid because of inmobility and fuel costs.

Honostly I'm inspired deeply by IG. I'm happy If M-throne army reminds you of IG.

Edit: I see no problem marching into battle like WWI. Watch the movie Mutant Cronicles in which the steam-punk armies battle like in WWI and Battle scenes looks great.

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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by ikensall » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:08 pm

@Honore Balzac
The factor that decides what stratagems should be employed is not which is the most practical in the real world, or (in the case of a sci-fi army) which is the most historically accurate, the fundamental criteria for a good army layout is that it looks awesome, and the M-throne SuperHeavyDeathTank's awesomeness is practically unrivalled by any logical tactic.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Zahru II » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:32 pm

Gotta say you're overthinking this a little. It's best to resort to "implied logistics" when it comes to how an army gets to the battlefield (they got there somehow, details are not really important by the time they're there), unless having said assets present is crucial to the scenario (ie: intercepting a supply convoy or escorting a transport).
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Honore » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:45 pm

I agree with you that I might be over thinking how they get to the battlefield, but till the day people can materialize necessary supplies into thin air, supply lines, and logistics are important. However, I'm only pointing these out because I'm assuming that's his entire platoon.

If you're going for IG, then you did a good job, all you need now are 30 leman russes supported by another 30 lemen russes.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Silverdream » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:50 pm

HonoreBalzac wrote: but till the day people can materialize necessary supplies into thin air, supply lines, and logistics are important.
That's actually possible for all of the factions with teleportation, magic or time travel.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Zupponn » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:09 pm

Some people just don't understand Brikwars.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Honore » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:36 pm

Zupponn wrote:Some people just don't understand Brikwars.
Plastic figures thrown at each other at maximum chaos disregarding logic, regarding fun.

:mystery:
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Zupponn » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:30 pm

HonoreBalzac wrote:
Zupponn wrote:Some people just don't understand Brikwars.
Plastic figures thrown at each other at maximum chaos disregarding logic, regarding fun.

:mystery:
Now, look back at your previous posts and see what you did wrong.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Honore » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:57 pm

Zupponn wrote:
HonoreBalzac wrote:
Zupponn wrote:Some people just don't understand Brikwars.
Plastic figures thrown at each other at maximum chaos disregarding logic, regarding fun.

:mystery:
Now, look back at your previous posts and see what you did wrong.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by IVhorseman » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:16 pm

HonoreBalzac wrote:till the day people can materialize necessary supplies into thin air, supply lines, and logistics are important. However, I'm only pointing these out because I'm assuming that's his entire platoon.
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Re: Imperial Army Overview [M:Throne Empire Series Ep.4]

Post by Honore » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:26 am

IVhorseman wrote:
HonoreBalzac wrote:till the day people can materialize necessary supplies into thin air, supply lines, and logistics are important. However, I'm only pointing these out because I'm assuming that's his entire platoon.
Thankfully, minifigs aren't people. The mystical hands of the creators provide all.
Not to be a lego snob, but they do eat and drink...
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