BW 2010 feedback

[bann154]

Warhead had an idea a couple years back about Great Leaders who could make a big speech to have a permanent effect on their entire army, but they could only do it once per battle so you had to choose wisely. I really like this idea, but haven't figured out how to set up the system to reward players who save it for an appropriately crucial moment instead of blowing it on turn 1 for a generic damage bonus or something.

Perhaps the bonus is equal to the turn number that it is activated on?

[stubby]

I thought about that, but it encourages a delaying game, which is definitely something I don't want. It's better to base it on the number of your own minifigs killed; that encourages Great Leaders to push their luck.

[Silent-sigfig]

Off map attacks:

Must be made by a player standing a reasonable distance away using one of these

[RedRover]

Off map attacks:

Must be made by a player standing a reasonable distance away using one of these

That is awesome! Or "bombardments" require you to underhand toss some Lego piece from a distance

[CaptainZebra]

Perhaps there should bean experimental section in the rulebook? Things could be dumped there for testing...

[stubby]

Perhaps there should bean experimental section in the rulebook? Things could be dumped there for testing...

I struggle to even have time to put all the finalized stuff in the rulebook, much less the experimental bits. But we have a forum for that http://brikwars.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6

[*CRAZYHORSE*]

I see that you removed the penalty for parry and riposte because of the slightly different way close combat works now.
If I understand correctly any time the opposing unit is attacked by the active unit he can decide to use up one of his counters/hands to parry. Then if he has any counter/hands left the opposing unit can strike back in a counter attack which the active unit can decide to parry if he likes to.

If so than this feels a lot more streamlined then what we had before and also feels more easy to track. It also adds a great dynamic of how you are going to spend your counters. Is the active minifig going to use his second hand weapon to block the opposing minifigs counter attack or is he going to safe it to make a second attack.

Also If I understand correctly the main difference between bailing and withdrawing out of close combat is that bailing is done on your opponents turn and leaves you disrupted while withdrawing is done on your own turn leaving you active to do what ever you want. Ignoring is simply withdrawing with out the movement right?

Just asking questions to make sure some of the new text conveys its message correctly.

[stubby]

All of that is exactly correct. So far I'm really enjoying the changes to counters in close combat; they seem like small details but they make everything so much easier to keep track of.

[*CRAZYHORSE*]

Yes I absolutely agree, it feels very simple but still has quite some depth in the choices you can make.

I have another question after rereading chapter H.

In Close Combat, a skilled Rider and Horse are so closely bonded that they fight as a single unit. They can Counter for each other when attacked, making them especially deadly against melee attackers, since an attack on one draws Counters from both.

Does this mean that when you attack a rider both the horse and the rider can attack the active unit in return the one after the other, or does this mean that when you attack a rider the rider can parry and the horse can attack back.


EDIT: I also noticed that on the riders statscard it says that he has an armor of 3 but in the combat example with Solo Jones and the Black Rider it says that the Black Rider has an armor value of 1d6-1 because he is a rider.

[stubby]

Does this mean that when you attack a rider both the horse and the rider can attack the active unit in return the one after the other, or does this mean that when you attack a rider the rider can parry and the horse can attack back.

The rider can parry and the horse can attack back. They're treated as a single unit with all of their combined counters.

EDIT: I also noticed that on the riders statscard it says that he has an armor of 3 but in the combat example with Solo Jones and the Black Rider it says that the Black Rider has an armor value of 1d6-1 because he is a rider.

I need to get rid of those completely. 3 and 1d6-1 are both dumb amounts for armor; I should stick with the default 4 for minifigs.

[Kaplan]

I like the specialties for Great Leaders.
I'm waiting excited for the chapter 10. Squad combat will be very important for me.

[Zupponn]

I'm waiting excited for the chapter 10. Squad combat will be very important for me.

Wait, you don't want to roll for each soldier in your army?

[Quantumsurfer]

I dig the Leadership specialties. I'm not inclined to make speeches, though. Reminds me of the Imitate Bela Lugosi card in Munchkin Bites. At first, the embarrassment and awful impersonations were funny but the joke quickly wore thin and pretty soon all that passed was a tired rendition of "I vant to suck your blood." No one laughed and play moved to the left. Don't mind the inclusion of ridiculous speeches in the rules, however. Hopefully, it'll inspire someone to get creative. As to the mechanics, I like the whole tradeoff theme you have running through the rules now.

[stubby]

PS: Chapter 7: Structures is still called special creations in the contents bar at the top of the page

fix'd

Other updates:

So I've moved Ossum and Bennies back over to The Spirit of the Game at the tail end of Chapter 1, since they seems more essential compared to the otherwise-skippable fluff in MOC Combat. Kanon and the Beige Karpet etc. remain in MOC Combat.

Close Combat in chapter 5 got rearranged a bunch. No new rules, but a bunch of stuff from sidebars got moved into the main text or otherwise rearranged.

[CaptainZebra]

The new combat layout feels more streamlined and looks cleaner